Every business owner reaches a moment where the pressure gets loud enough that it canโt be ignored.
The numbers, the cash flow, the stress, the expectationsโit all shows you exactly where you stand.
This conversation goes deep into those turning points. Moshe Bochner sits with Joel Meisels for a conversation that goes deep into business clarity, leadership, limitation, and what it truly means to build something that can last.
The moments where you face your limits, your reality, and the truth about the path youโre on.
We talk about structure, strategy, denial, pressure, opportunity, and the courage it takes to confront your own business honestly.
We talk about what it really means to grow, to pivot, to start over, or to double down.
And we talk about relationships, leadership, staffing, and the long gameโbecause business isnโt about quick wins.
Itโs about facing yourself and building something that can carry the weight of your ambition.
Hereโs the question worth thinking about:
Are you building a business that can support the life you want, or are you forcing yourself to support a business that canโt?Timestamps:
00:00 Joelโs journey from marketing into insurance
01:40 Why personal lines built stronger relationships
03:20 The moment the business structure had to change
05:10 Understanding pressure through numbers
07:00 Recognizing denial and choosing clarity
09:45 Why the right support system changes everything
12:20 Lessons learned from hitting limitations
14:10 Leadership, staffing, and the weight of decisions
16:25 Choosing ownership over comfort
18:40 Sales as relationship, impact, and presence
20:55 Final takeaways on honesty, feedback, and growth
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