Every business owner reaches a moment where the pressure gets loud enough that it can鈥檛 be ignored.
The numbers, the cash flow, the stress, the expectations鈥攊t all shows you exactly where you stand.
This conversation goes deep into those turning points. Moshe Bochner sits with Joel Meisels for a conversation that goes deep into business clarity, leadership, limitation, and what it truly means to build something that can last.
The moments where you face your limits, your reality, and the truth about the path you鈥檙e on.
We talk about structure, strategy, denial, pressure, opportunity, and the courage it takes to confront your own business honestly.
We talk about what it really means to grow, to pivot, to start over, or to double down.
And we talk about relationships, leadership, staffing, and the long game鈥攂ecause business isn鈥檛 about quick wins.
It鈥檚 about facing yourself and building something that can carry the weight of your ambition.
Here鈥檚 the question worth thinking about:
Are you building a business that can support the life you want, or are you forcing yourself to support a business that can鈥檛?Timestamps:
00:00 Joel鈥檚 journey from marketing into insurance
01:40 Why personal lines built stronger relationships
03:20 The moment the business structure had to change
05:10 Understanding pressure through numbers
07:00 Recognizing denial and choosing clarity
09:45 Why the right support system changes everything
12:20 Lessons learned from hitting limitations
14:10 Leadership, staffing, and the weight of decisions
16:25 Choosing ownership over comfort
18:40 Sales as relationship, impact, and presence
20:55 Final takeaways on honesty, feedback, and growth
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